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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:40 AM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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I did see the game at Philly where Cousins beat Philly. In that game he looked very impressive.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:41 AM
- Shakester
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If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:42 AM
- Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I did see the game at Philly where Cousins beat Philly. In that game he looked very impressive.
And in the last five games he had the worst five-game stretch of his entire career. So bad that they benched him for Penix with the division on the line to finish the season.
Y'all need to stop using this stupid "game-winning drives" metric to measure QB's. It's a 0.1% sample size of what QB's do.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Dec 24, 2024 at 10:45 AM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:52 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Shakester:If you check the Draft redos for 2022, brock turned himself into a top 10 first rounder.. while you downplay him due to his physical stature, what makes a great QB is his processing speed. That's what Purdy has. Brady was a 6th rounder because he didn't look the part. But he ended being a great student of the game. (ugh, i hate brady) Brady didn't become great for deep balls and scrambling to make something happen. What he was great at was taking what the defense gave him.
If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Purdy showed that, just cause the entire team isn't having a great season doesn't mean Purdy never was a good QB. shoot he hasn't even hit year 3 yet and has done what most vet QBs have never done in their career.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:55 AM
- Niner4ever
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Don't force anything!
Purdy will still be under contract.
Purdy will still be under contract.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:59 AM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by Shakester:
If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
lol
he's exceptionally mobile. His in pocket mobility is among the best in the league. Hands are avg for NFL. And he's perhaps the most poised and accurate thrower in the nfl. And he has tremendous big game experience only matched by maybe 2 other QBs.
Oh and he's done all of that before age 26. lol
[ Edited by okdkid on Dec 24, 2024 at 11:01 AM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:06 AM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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Originally posted by Shakester:
If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Very true assessment!
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:07 AM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
And in the last five games he had the worst five-game stretch of his entire career. So bad that they benched him for Penix with the division on the line to finish the season.
Y'all need to stop using this stupid "game-winning drives" metric to measure QB's. It's a 0.1% sample size of what QB's do.
And I haven't seen Brock do anything more in his last 5 game stretch either!
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:12 AM
- Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
And in the last five games he had the worst five-game stretch of his entire career. So bad that they benched him for Penix with the division on the line to finish the season.
Y'all need to stop using this stupid "game-winning drives" metric to measure QB's. It's a 0.1% sample size of what QB's do.
And I haven't seen Brock do anything more in his last 5 game stretch either!
Lol. Thank you for confirming that you're just trolling and don't know what you're talking about.
Take their last 5 games and compare them side by side, and you'll realize that it is asinine for you to even say they're in the same galaxy. Cousins was BAD his last five games. Like REALLY bad. He threw only one TD the entire stretch.
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:25 AM
- TheWooLick
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Originally posted by Shakester:If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
He is super mobile, one of the quickest to cover 10 yards, and was one of the top deep passers in the NFL last season.
Mac f**king Jones? He is straight trash.
I don't give a crap about the money.
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:27 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Originally posted by Shakester:
If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Very true assessment!
Purdy's hands are 9 1/4". Same as Mahomes, Mayfield and JG. Burrow's are smaller at 9". Same for Jared Goff. Tom Brady is 6'5"bt hs hands were only 9 3/8". Same for Darnold. Are you going to tell me that the extra 1/8" makes a difference. Balls slipping out has more to do with how they grip the ball and how strongly they grip it than the size of the hands. Ideally bigger hands shoukd be an advantage but not always.
Dec 24, 2024 at 11:56 AM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Well he's going to be. And the Niners can still sign anybody they want.
I know that he'll get overpaid because that's the idiotic way teams are operating now. That doesn't make it right. Saying they can sign anyone they want is wrong. I'm sure they would have loved to keep D J Jones. Armstead, Buckner, Mostert and others that left.
He's saying the 9ers can sign Brock then sign anyone after that. Brock cap hit shouldn't kick in till after the 2025 season. But not sure why people are worried about signing Brock, the team will protect themselves or recoup money if something goes wrong. And the number that everyone sees when it's reported is never the real number that he'll earn.
With that said Brock is my QB, all this talk about not being able to play in bad weather is irrelevant. He's already shown he can lead the 49ers deep into the playoffs. He's played in bad weather and still got to the NFCC his first year starting then the Super Bowl his second year starting.
I'm not talking about next season. I realize his new contract won't kick in right away but when it does it's going to have an effect on who they can and can't sign. Not just players on their team but free agents. Even when the cap goes to $300 million Brock will be getting about 20% of the entire cap if thye pay him $60 mil. That's too much for one player.
What always matters in a contract is the guaranteed money. And there's always a way ti manipulate the salary cap. The 49ers front office is too smart to put themselves into salary cap hell again.
Dec 24, 2024 at 12:05 PM
- ninerfaninnorcal
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
What always matters in a contract is the guaranteed money. And there's always a way ti manipulate the salary cap. The 49ers front office is too smart to put themselves into salary cap hell again.
This is good to know. Brock has played below average-average this year and has been the worst QB in the NFC West.
Dec 24, 2024 at 12:11 PM
- 5Jan2003
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I certainly expect to see Brock as the 49ers starting quarterback for the next 3 seasons.
Things don't need to be perfect for him to be good, they just need to be not fielding a 3 string team around him.
Same goes with almost any QB you can name.
I'm not burnt out on the kid because almost everything around him sucks.
Things don't need to be perfect for him to be good, they just need to be not fielding a 3 string team around him.
Same goes with almost any QB you can name.
I'm not burnt out on the kid because almost everything around him sucks.
[ Edited by 5Jan2003 on Dec 24, 2024 at 12:11 PM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 12:15 PM
- 49erKing
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Originally posted by Shakester:
If the Niners were to, hypothetically, release him after this season, how many teams would be lining up to sign him to be their franchise QB of the future? Giants, Jets and Raiders are the only teams that come to mind, because every other team has theirs. You can maybe throw in Carolina, but they seem pretty content on moving forward with Bryce Young.
Purdy is 6'0 with an average arm, isn't all that mobile and has small hands. I'm sure they can find someone 6'2, with a good arm and able to throw in wet weather in the 4th or 5th round of the draft. Someone like Will Rogers III out of Washington. Or sign someone like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. There isn't need to sign Purdy to anything more than $35M a year. If he takes a 5 year, $100M deal, then sure. I wouldn't mind him at $20M a year, but at $60M? No thanks.
Very true assessment!
Purdy's hands are 9 1/4". Same as Mahomes, Mayfield and JG. Burrow's are smaller at 9". Same for Jared Goff. Tom Brady is 6'5"bt hs hands were only 9 3/8". Same for Darnold. Are you going to tell me that the extra 1/8" makes a difference. Balls slipping out has more to do with how they grip the ball and how strongly they grip it than the size of the hands. Ideally bigger hands shoukd be an advantage but not always.
Hand span vs hand length. They dont measure hand length at the combine. I am assuming Brock is a bit on the shorter side. If not then maybe wear gloves in inclement weather.